use? To beat him?)The baton stick. Those black baton sticks. Yes standing, they just hit him anywhere. They didn’t feel…. They didn’t give a damn what, what place they were hitting on him on the body, just hitting. They just left him like that. They hit him and they just leave him. They didn’t take him with them, And they had gone. One of the policemen. I’m not quite sure if he was a soldier, or a policemen also. But the other police was wearing blue. Blues. You, know those blues. The riot police. And they were all armed. And they stopped me. I had finished my beer. I had just about a quarter to finish my beer. And they said “You, come here!” I didn’t argue with them. Then they asked me “ Where are you coming from?” I said I’m coming from the beer hall. “Which beer hall are you coming from?” They said. The Red Bull, it’s open. They said, “No there is no beer garden, beer place, which is open today. There is no bar which is open today. Everywhere is closed.” I said, No, I had to tell them that public bar was open, The Red Bull bar. And it was open. So many people were there drinking, together. So we started arguing and they stated hitting using their guns, the butts, They hit me, I said, No, you can hit me but I’m telling you the truth. That’s the only truth I can tell you. I said, If you want I can accompany you to that public bar. And you can talk to the people who were there, the manager, and whoever, they know me. Everyone there, they know me. They saw me, I was drinking beer since afternoon, since morning. They said, “You are talking shit, you are giving us shit, so you have to learn a lesson.” They hit and hit. I said, No, it’s okay. You are going. Then on one way when we were going to the police camp they said “You are going to a police camp.” When met this other police truck. They stopped it. Then we got in that car. On our way to the police, when we were still outside, we did u- turn, it was coming to the other side, so we had to do a u- turn so that he can go to the police camp. These brief extracts convey an impression of highly intimidatory behaviour by the ZRP, and this is given all the more substance when the next section, that concerned with those requesting assistance from the NGO Forum, is read. Army brutality It also clear that the ZNA were involved in the commission of human rights violations, and this is of greater concern because soldiers do not generally have training in the use of minimum force. The decision to deploy soldiers therefore must require an extremely serious situation to justify the risk of exceeding minimum force. So I was standing outside on the veranda, watching through the Durawall, on top of the Durawall. They were no mercy those soldiers, I tell you. They whipped the person and the step on his head and whip him until he said anything which he doesn’t do. Sometimes, the soldiers would say that day “Get inside”. So I was taking the bench which I was stepping on. They said “Get inside or I will come there”. So I was afraid to be whipped with that whip so I got inside and I opened the curtain and I was peeping through the window, to see what was they doing. They were harsh. They hit a person without anything, even, they would say “You were there”, then they would say, no I was at school. The kids just small kids, they were kicked so that they could tell, “No , my father got there and loot, such things” . So they come to the houses, they slap a kid so that he’d say out everything that was brought by his parents at home that day, or other relatives or what. And they said, “Just show us where they put it”. That ‘s when they took the person and put them right over there at the shops. They were carried with the things they loot and eh, that person will not… far evidence they took those things and they were kept so that they kept them from the shops and go to the police station with them. That’s what I remember. The following day it was Tuesday, I was sleeping because I was in pain. I saw soldiers. They were in. On, Monday night there were those policemen with cars you know just walking everywhere and they were picking up the people ….? You know, there was of violence that (Monday) night. So on Tuesday then ugh, I was sleeping at home. Then I